Hello everyone

I've worked out the first parameter no problem for the 2 percentage numbers for simple and polynuclear granulocytes.

But I'm stuck on working out how to do the second parameter of the filament blood test, getting the number of granulocytes per ml.


I've read kruger's example about counting animals and marking them, but I can't see how I apply that. I tried emptying the filament and refilling it with the same sample, and then under the microscope it brings up some different numbers each time, am i meant to do that?

Hi Merlin,

My memory of this puzzle is a little hazy. This is from an older post by MaG, I hope it helps you:

Procedure for second parameter: This is explained by the last page of Kruger's instructions.

Take the filament from the microscope with the marked cells and attach it back to top of the sampler.
Lower the sampler using the lever at left.
Press the - button to eject the marked cells back in the test tube. This mixes the marked cells with the unmarked cells.
Lower the sampler using the lever at left.
Press the + button to take a sample of the mixed marked and unmarked sample.
Take the filament and place it on the microscope.

-------Note the % marked granulocytes in the mixed sample. The icons should NOT be lit up. The readout is above the icons.

Place the filament back on top of the sampler.
Lower the sampler using the lever at left.
Press the - button to eject the marked cells back in the test tube.

It is now ready for the next sample.

Once you get the number similar to the chart in the walkthrough.
Then enter the Total # of granulocytes/ml on the second parameter/

If you still need help, let us know.

Your signature made me laugh out loud rushes. I could hear Groucho saying that

Well, thing is, I'm still havinhg problems.

"The icons should NOT be lit up"

But they are lit up. And when they're not, I get 0, and then the same 2 numbers from the first parameter test if I click both icons again to light them up.

After finishing the first parameter test, am I meant to leave both icons lit up where it then says '100' before removing the filament?

Gotta love Groucho.

We might have to wait for MaG's expert advice here, or a member who's played the game more recently and can recall this puzzle. My eyes are crossed just from reading the step-by-step. As a last resort, I have a saved game.

Let me talk to myself here.

First parameters:
- you take a blank sample. Buzz it with the filament. Thus you tagged the monos and the polys (granulocytes).
Read the monos using the left button and read the polys with the right button.
You did that.

Second parameter:
- you take the sample that is in the filament that you already buzzed-tagged-counted granulocytes and return it to the blank sample in the tube.
This way you mixed the buzzed with blanks to get an overall buzzed granulocytes percentage on that tube.

When you took the filament off, that should have grayed the readout.

Then you get a new sample of the mixed overall sample. Read the filament and get the total buzzed granulocytes.

You might need to redo the first parameter and then continue to second parameter again.

I surely hope that I didn't confuse you further.
Kruger's example is similar to tagging the cells to get the percentage.

Hi MaG,

"When you took the filament off, that should have grayed the readout."

I'm still not doing something right. Example, sample 809. After checking the monos and polys separately (7 and 93) and then together to see '100' where both icons are lit simultaneously, do I leave them lit and just press the return button 'X' at the bottom right to come out of that screen, or do I make them both un-lit before coming out of that microscope screen?

If I leave them un-lit, remove the filament from the microscope, and I proceed with mixing the sample and returning it to the microscope, then what I see is the icons un-lit, and no new number, just the same count of monos and polys again (7 and 93) when I click each icon.

Or if I leave them lit, remove the filament from the microscope, and I proceed with mixing the sample and returning it to the microscope,
then what I see is the icons lit and a new number. In this case, 24.

Sorry, I don't get it.

See if calculating with 24 will work.
Keep us posted.
I do have a saved game here. I think.

Ok, I'll keep it within spoiler tags just in case. According to your walkthrough,

Which donor are you testing?

All I can think of is to redo the puzzle (or use a saved game or copy the result from the walkthrough) so that the icons are not lit.

It's been a while since I played this and it doesn't work on my new video card anymore - can you check if you can turn off the icon lights at top right and then see if it will read.

Hey, I've done it!

But take a look at my screenshot in the spoiler brackets. The top right is lit up. All my samples were lit up except in some cases where one was lit and one wasn't. Strange then, since they're not meant to be lit up?

Yes, they should not be lit up but great that they worked.

Have fun with the rest of the game.

Hehe, yeah. it's

Thanks for the help though MaG. One thing to mention to you, which may or may not be important for your walkthrough, I don't know.

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Thanks.

Ineed help I,m not sure how this is done but I,m looking for help on the pentagram that u draw on the wall in the prision.I draw it and it want do anything.can u help?

starrs4,

The saved game for the wall pentagram is sent.In case you want to do it yourself - draw the pentagram in one continuous line (no breaks) and make it large enough to fill the frame.

I tried to cover whole thing with no breaks but still nothing and the file you send can,t be opened .I tried it all on that also. Is there any thing else to try if not thanks anyway.

It should covers the whole frame on the wall.

Be sure that you have renumbered the file to be the last number.
Then scroll at start of the load list to look for the installed saved game.

starrs4 writes:

In Janos,s room I set every thing up right but when I start putting in the letters like YGRO ext...the top letters start moving and it doesn,t say anything like Hans-Janos decoded report.It says nothing can you help. starrs

starrs, you mention the decoded report. Did you already correct solve the first part of the decoding using the S E P T E letter code? That decodes the report -- but it starts off with UARC rather than YGRO.

The second part of the decoding is for the letter to Hans-Janos, and has the letter code A U G U S -- and that begins with YGRO.

Also check that your roman numerals are correctly set.

I did have it that way everything but like I was saying when I hit the first letter the the s would flip to another and it never would spell anything.Please help.

So you are trying to solve the first stage of the decoder puzzle - the S E P T E ? As I said in my last post, that should not begin with YGRO (as you mentioned trying to type in, in your above post), but with UARC. Did you use the pencil on the paper 3 times to reveal the full text? You might need to try a few more times with entering the letters for it to make any sense. Other members had the same problem, but found when they returned to the puzzle and tried again, the decoder worked correctly.

I also have a saved game if you would prefer that.

Please I sure would just in case.sorry to be so much trouble my son used to help me but he,s not around any longer.Thank you so much.

I just checked my saves - I don't have a labelled save for this puzzle so I'll send you a few from roughly this point, and hopefully one of them will be what you need. On the way to you now, with instructions on how to install.

You're no trouble, we're happy to help.