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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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In no particular order: Morpheus Amerzone Obsidian Myst Riven Amber JB Journeyman: Buried in Time Journyeman: Legacy of Time Zork GI Drowned God Tomb Raider the Last Revelation oops, that's eleven    Gareth |  |  |  
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Haven't played enough games to have a top ten list, but of what I've played, I would unhesitatingly recommend: 1. Riven -- best of the first-person, "plop you in a strange place and make you figure out what the hell's going on" games. My favorite adventure game to date. 2. Amber: Journeys Beyond -- the only game I've ever played that actually scared me. 3. Last Express -- not a game I really love, but I think anyone interested in adventure games should try this one out. Played completely in real time, it is definitely a unique experience. I would also recommend, with reservations: 1. Myst -- started me on the genre, so that should say something for it, I guess.    2. Grim Fandango -- the best written, best voice-acted, best thought-out game I ever played, but weakened by a really crummy interface. I consider this a "flawed classic". 3. 7th Guest -- basically a puzzle game in adventure fancy pants, but a good puzzle game. 4. Outcast -- an action adventure game that got me started on THAT genre. doug 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Jenny
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My list--also in no particular order
 Myst/Riven
 Atlantis 2
 Timelapse
 Amber
 Beyond Time
 Zork GI
 Reah
 The Crystal Key
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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flotsam
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Hi there, So far, there are 28 individuals contributing and already 81 games have been mentioned. At this rate, everything Ray has ever played will get mentioned at least once    The top 10 (not in order) are: Riven Amber Zork Nemesis Grim Fandango Myst Timelapse Legacy of Time  Zork Grand Inquisitor Shivers Obsidian Those with at least 5 recommendations are: Lighthouse Gabriel Knight 2 Morpheus Gabriel Knight 3 Atlantis 2 The Longest Journey Black Dahlia Sanitarium flotsam 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Okay, here goes:
 1.   Myst/Riven
 2.   Zork Grand Inquisitor
 3.   Morpheus
 4.   The Curse of Monkey Island
 5.   The Last Express
 6.   Timelapse
 7.   The Legend of Lotus Spring
 8.   Amerzone
 9.   Ring
 10.  Reah
 
 
 I'm currently playing Atlantis II, and unless the game suddenly loses all its remarkable heart and depth, it will end up high on my list.
 
 Re: mostly older games making the lists: to some extent this is natural, because we've had more time to play older games.  And I think there can be a nostalgic haze surrounding a person's first few immersive interactive experiences.  (For instance, I find that the music from Myst affects me in the same way Golden Oldie songs from my teenage years do -- I don't just remember the song, but I remember what I was looking at and what I was feeling at the time.)
 
 It's also easier to recognize a classic when you've had time to think about the game/book/painting, and put it in perspective, perhaps even to play/read/look at it more than once.  This may explain in part why we seem to be favoring older games, but I don't think it explains the whole.
 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Hi, Thanks for the encouragement MacDee. Sad though I am not so sure about. Becky is right in that more of us will have played them, and I assume we will have played them because we have heard good things about them. The circle continues. I suspect that newer games (like TLJ perhaps) will get more recommendations as time goes by. I haven't played it yet so it can't make my list. That is why I think doing this periodically (every 6 months say) will be both informative and useful. If you do it 4 or 5 times and the older games still come up, then maybe it is sad - or maybe it just says something about what people want to play. idarcy had a good suggestion re Mac ported games and can the Mac-ers amongst you indicate at the end of the day what games are playable by the Microsoft challenged     . flotsam [This message has been edited by flotsam (edited 06-09-2000).] 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Here's my list, since you asked so nicely...     1.  TLJ 2.  Feeble Files 3.  GK2 4.  Broken Sword 1 5.  Grim Fandango 6.  GK3 7.  Simon the Sorcerer 8.  Broken Sword 2 9.  King's Quest VII (my first graphic adventure, can't help it!) 10. Curse of Monkey Island [This message has been edited by foofoobunny (edited 06-09-2000).] |  |  |  
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Alkmouse
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Ok...the newbie's turn....
 Actually...picking just 10 may be difficult:> )
 
 1. Myst (of course:> )
 2. Riven
 3. JP2 - Buried in Time
 4. JP3- Legacy of Time
 5. Rama
 6. Obsidian
 7. Jewels of the Oracle
 8. 7th Guest
 9. TLJ
 10. Lighthouse
 
 The list could go on and on :> )
 
 Andee
 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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les
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My favorites are not necessarily the games I would reccomend to someone else.  
 I try to tailor my reccomendations the taste of the person who asks.
 
 The games I would most often tell someone about are:
 
 Riven
 Broken Sword / Circle of Blood: Shadow of  the Templars
 
 Amerzone
 Timelapse
 Journeyman Project 2
 Zork Grand Inquisitor
 Full Throttle
 
 for kids:
 
 King's Quest 7: The Princeless Bride
 Nile: An Ancient Egyptian Quest
 
 Wow!  I used up my ten slots faster than I thought I would.
 
 Les
 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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It's interesting to me how many of us put Amber on our lists.  Of course I wasn't gaming when it first came out, but did it really make that much of a hit, or is it just one of those games that people came to slowly appreciate?  I just finished it recently, and found it very enjoyable, yet I had never heard of it until someone offered it to me in a trade.
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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HI, Jenny!   I don't know the stats on how Amber sold when it was first released in 1996. But, I think is popularity has steadily grown since.  It probably could be considered a "cult classic" by this time...       There are still lots of reviews of Amber on the Web.  One such is at   http://pc.hotgames.com//games/amberj/review.htm   Although, it sounds like the author of this particular review was an action gamer and entirely unfamiliar with adventure games....or already had a firm mindset...LOL     Love, Witchen =O)           [This message has been edited by Witchen (edited 06-10-2000).] |  |  |  
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Hi all, I've only played 6 games one of which (Crystal Key) I wouldn't recommend unless you're desperate. From the quick look I took,  it doesn't rate high with many.  Here is my list of 5. Zork Nemesis Riven Myst Amerzone JP3 Looks like I gotta try Obsidian and Timelapse. Rayy    
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
 #94543 06/11/00 03:14 AM
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Hi,Just an update on where we are at.
 The top 10 in order (some ties and allowing for errors) are:
 
 Myst
 Riven
 Amber
 Grim Fandango
 Timelapse
 Legacy of Time
 Zork Grand Inquisitor
 Zork Nemesis
 Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within
 Obsidian
 
 Games mentioned by at least 5 different people are:
 
 The Longest Journey
 Lighthouse
 Shivers
 Morpheus
 Gabriel Knight 3
 Atlantis 2
 Black Dahlia
 Sanitarium
 Monkey Island 2
 Full Throttle
 Day of the Tentacle
 Circle of Blood
 Amerzone
 Buried in Time
 Curse of Monkey Island
 
 Almost 90 games have been mentioned in all.
 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Better late than never.... right?  Count my fav's in    (no particuliar order - oh, yes, they are......... in alphabetical order hahaha) Black Dahlia Beyond Time GKI< II< III (does that count as 3?) Lighthouse Morpheus Phantasmagoria's  Temunjin Zork's (et al) Th-th-that's all folks        
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Here's mine (subject to future additions) in no particular order...
 Curse of Monkey Island
 Grim Fandango
 Discworld II
 Nightlong
 Normality
 Faust
 Gabriel Knight II - The Beast Within
 Sanitarium
 Amerzone
 Myst
 
 There's still a lot I haven't played yet (just got Feeble Files and waiting for Longest Journey) but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend any of these to other people, although I admit Normality was a guilty pleasure.
 
 "Remember that the most common mistake made by those designing something to be completely foolproof is underestimating the ingenuity of complete fools."
 
 Now playing:  Too bloody many (sigh)
 Now reading: Year's Best Fantasy and Horror 9th edition (1995)
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Hey all,
 This is a really good idea.  Maybe some publishers or designers or the ever present marketing department people will have a peek at all these postings.
 
 1. Myst/Riven
 2. Obsidian
 3. Dark Side of the Moon
 4. Forgotten
 5. Zork Grand Inquisitor
 6. Zork Nemesis
 7. Shivers
 8. Lighthouse
 9. Drowned God
 10.All the Tex Murphys'
 
 I really could go on and on....but I won't.
 
 
 
 
 
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|  Re: 2000 A list with a twist
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Had to give this alot of thought and really narrow it down as I've played so many great games     My top 10 fav's as follows: 1. Tex Murphy: (Overseer,Pandora,UAKM) 2. Return to Zork 3. Timelapse 4. Black Dahlia 5. Titanic Adventure Out of Time 6. Shivers 7. X-Files 8. Atlantis 2 9. Dust 10.Curse of Monkey Island Naturally, there are many games awaiting play such as Ripper, TLJ, Obsidian, etc., that could significantly alter this list!  P.W.     
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