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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94525
06/07/00 07:53 PM
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In no particular order:

Morpheus
Amerzone
Obsidian
Myst
Riven
Amber JB
Journeyman: Buried in Time
Journyeman: Legacy of Time
Zork GI
Drowned God
Tomb Raider the Last Revelation

oops, that's eleven

Gareth

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94526
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Haven't played enough games to have a top ten list, but of what I've played, I would unhesitatingly recommend:

1. Riven -- best of the first-person, "plop you in a strange place and make you figure out what the hell's going on" games. My favorite adventure game to date.

2. Amber: Journeys Beyond -- the only game I've ever played that actually scared me.

3. Last Express -- not a game I really love, but I think anyone interested in adventure games should try this one out. Played completely in real time, it is definitely a unique experience.

I would also recommend, with reservations:

1. Myst -- started me on the genre, so that should say something for it, I guess.

2. Grim Fandango -- the best written, best voice-acted, best thought-out game I ever played, but weakened by a really crummy interface. I consider this a "flawed classic".

3. 7th Guest -- basically a puzzle game in adventure fancy pants, but a good puzzle game.

4. Outcast -- an action adventure game that got me started on THAT genre.

doug


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94527
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I haven't played enough games to have 10 favorites, but I will offer my top 5, if that's OK-- in no particular order:

Myst
Timelapse
Atlantis and A2 (I know, even I can't believe I said that!LOL)
Obsidian

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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94528
06/07/00 11:04 PM
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My list--also in no particular order

Myst/Riven
Atlantis 2
Timelapse
Amber
Beyond Time
Zork GI
Reah
The Crystal Key
Qin

[This message has been edited by Jenny (edited 06-08-2000).]


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94529
06/08/00 05:57 AM
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Hi there,
So far, there are 28 individuals contributing and already 81 games have been mentioned. At this rate, everything Ray has ever played will get mentioned at least once
The top 10 (not in order) are:

Riven
Amber
Zork Nemesis
Grim Fandango
Myst
Timelapse
Legacy of Time
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Shivers
Obsidian

Those with at least 5 recommendations are:

Lighthouse
Gabriel Knight 2
Morpheus
Gabriel Knight 3
Atlantis 2
The Longest Journey
Black Dahlia
Sanitarium

flotsam


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94530
06/08/00 11:02 AM
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Hey! Great work flotsam

I noticed the top 10 are mostly older games. Sad huh?

~Dee

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94531
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Okay, here goes:

1. Myst/Riven
2. Zork Grand Inquisitor
3. Morpheus
4. The Curse of Monkey Island
5. The Last Express
6. Timelapse
7. The Legend of Lotus Spring
8. Amerzone
9. Ring
10. Reah


I'm currently playing Atlantis II, and unless the game suddenly loses all its remarkable heart and depth, it will end up high on my list.

Re: mostly older games making the lists: to some extent this is natural, because we've had more time to play older games. And I think there can be a nostalgic haze surrounding a person's first few immersive interactive experiences. (For instance, I find that the music from Myst affects me in the same way Golden Oldie songs from my teenage years do -- I don't just remember the song, but I remember what I was looking at and what I was feeling at the time.)

It's also easier to recognize a classic when you've had time to think about the game/book/painting, and put it in perspective, perhaps even to play/read/look at it more than once. This may explain in part why we seem to be favoring older games, but I don't think it explains the whole.

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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94532
06/09/00 08:22 AM
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Hi,
Thanks for the encouragement MacDee.
Sad though I am not so sure about. Becky is right in that more of us will have played them, and I assume we will have played them because we have heard good things about them. The circle continues.
I suspect that newer games (like TLJ perhaps) will get more recommendations as time goes by. I haven't played it yet so it can't make my list. That is why I think doing this periodically (every 6 months say) will be both informative and useful. If you do it 4 or 5 times and the older games still come up, then maybe it is sad - or maybe it just says something about what people want to play.
idarcy had a good suggestion re Mac ported games and can the Mac-ers amongst you indicate at the end of the day what games are playable by the Microsoft challenged .

flotsam


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94533
06/09/00 09:15 AM
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Here's my list, since you asked so nicely...

1. TLJ
2. Feeble Files
3. GK2
4. Broken Sword 1
5. Grim Fandango
6. GK3
7. Simon the Sorcerer
8. Broken Sword 2
9. King's Quest VII (my first graphic adventure, can't help it!)
10. Curse of Monkey Island


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94534
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Ok...the newbie's turn....

Actually...picking just 10 may be difficult:> )

1. Myst (of course:> )
2. Riven
3. JP2 - Buried in Time
4. JP3- Legacy of Time
5. Rama
6. Obsidian
7. Jewels of the Oracle
8. 7th Guest
9. TLJ
10. Lighthouse

The list could go on and on :> )

Andee


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94535
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In no order:

Amber
Timelapse
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Myst
Riven
Gabriel Knight/Beast Within
Monkey Island 1 + 2
Shivers

We are playing Obsidian now (hey Janie!) and that will probably make the the list. I know that would only put me up to nine, but the eternal optimist that I am, I want to save a spot for the next really great game that comes along.

Lizabeth

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94536
06/09/00 07:17 PM
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My favorites are not necessarily the games I would reccomend to someone else.

I try to tailor my reccomendations the taste of the person who asks.

The games I would most often tell someone about are:

Riven
Broken Sword / Circle of Blood: Shadow of the Templars

Amerzone
Timelapse
Journeyman Project 2
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Full Throttle

for kids:

King's Quest 7: The Princeless Bride
Nile: An Ancient Egyptian Quest

Wow! I used up my ten slots faster than I thought I would.

Les


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94537
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No particular order

1.Atlantis II
2.Amber
3.King,s Quest 5,6,and 7
4.Sanitarium
5.Lighthouse
6.Amerzone
7.Curse of Monkey Island
8.GK2:Beast Within
9.Blackstone Chronicles
10.Broken Sword 2

And the list goes on...

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94538
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No particular order
Myst
Riven
Sanitarium
Blackstone Chronicles
GK1
GK2
GK3
Lightbringer
Morpheus
Amber

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94539
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It's interesting to me how many of us put Amber on our lists. Of course I wasn't gaming when it first came out, but did it really make that much of a hit, or is it just one of those games that people came to slowly appreciate? I just finished it recently, and found it very enjoyable, yet I had never heard of it until someone offered it to me in a trade.

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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94540
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HI, Jenny!

I don't know the stats on how Amber sold when it was first released in 1996. But, I think is popularity has steadily grown since. It probably could be considered a "cult classic" by this time... There are still lots of reviews of Amber on the Web. One such is at http://pc.hotgames.com//games/amberj/review.htm Although, it sounds like the author of this particular review was an action gamer and entirely unfamiliar with adventure games....or already had a firm mindset...LOL

Love, Witchen =O)


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94541
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Hi all,
I've only played 6 games one of which (Crystal Key) I wouldn't recommend unless you're desperate. From the quick look I took, it doesn't rate high with many. Here is my list of 5.

Zork Nemesis
Riven
Myst
Amerzone
JP3

Looks like I gotta try Obsidian and Timelapse.

Rayy


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94542
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You know, it is hard to get just 10 games, guess I play too much. I can easily put a list of 20.

Here is my list:

Loom (Anyone remember this one?)
Day of the Tentacle
Myst
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
Neverhood
Circle of Blood
Journeyman Project 2
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Full Throttle
Toonstruck

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94543
06/11/00 03:14 AM
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Hi,
Just an update on where we are at.
The top 10 in order (some ties and allowing for errors) are:

Myst
Riven
Amber
Grim Fandango
Timelapse
Legacy of Time
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Zork Nemesis
Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within
Obsidian

Games mentioned by at least 5 different people are:

The Longest Journey
Lighthouse
Shivers
Morpheus
Gabriel Knight 3
Atlantis 2
Black Dahlia
Sanitarium
Monkey Island 2
Full Throttle
Day of the Tentacle
Circle of Blood
Amerzone
Buried in Time
Curse of Monkey Island

Almost 90 games have been mentioned in all.

flotsam



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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94544
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Better late than never.... right? Count my fav's in (no particuliar order - oh, yes, they are......... in alphabetical order hahaha)
Black Dahlia
Beyond Time
GKI< II< III (does that count as 3?)
Lighthouse
Morpheus
Phantasmagoria's
Temunjin
Zork's (et al)

Th-th-that's all folks


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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94545
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Hey, flotsam....Thanks a ton for the re-cap! Interesting results!

Love, Witchen =O)

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94546
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Here's mine (subject to future additions) in no particular order...

Curse of Monkey Island
Grim Fandango
Discworld II
Nightlong
Normality
Faust
Gabriel Knight II - The Beast Within
Sanitarium
Amerzone
Myst

There's still a lot I haven't played yet (just got Feeble Files and waiting for Longest Journey) but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend any of these to other people, although I admit Normality was a guilty pleasure.

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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94547
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1.Myst
2.Riven
3.Rama
4.Lighthouse
5.Timelapse
6.Obsidian
7.Beyond Time
8.SPQR
9.Zork Nemesis
10.Curse of Monkey Island

Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94548
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Hey all,

This is a really good idea. Maybe some publishers or designers or the ever present marketing department people will have a peek at all these postings.

1. Myst/Riven
2. Obsidian
3. Dark Side of the Moon
4. Forgotten
5. Zork Grand Inquisitor
6. Zork Nemesis
7. Shivers
8. Lighthouse
9. Drowned God
10.All the Tex Murphys'

I really could go on and on....but I won't.





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Re: 2000 A list with a twist #94549
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Had to give this alot of thought and really narrow it down as I've played so many great games My top 10 fav's as follows:

1. Tex Murphy: (Overseer,Pandora,UAKM)
2. Return to Zork
3. Timelapse
4. Black Dahlia
5. Titanic Adventure Out of Time
6. Shivers
7. X-Files
8. Atlantis 2
9. Dust
10.Curse of Monkey Island

Naturally, there are many games awaiting play such as Ripper, TLJ, Obsidian, etc., that could significantly alter this list!

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