This game surely has taken us all down many different paths - and the creepy glowing eyes in the dark 'hole', I did not find it unusual in a scary creepy game like this - reminded me of the same glowing eyes in Shivers 1, scared the bejeepers out of me then, took it in stride this time and did not 'read' any special clue into it....did I miss something here? Was it the glowing eyes being referred to? or something else.
Love, Betty Lou

I think we are missing something --- Agustin gave us a clue

---inferno

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was there a bone down there? Kinda big? Human-like?

I deleted all my saved games so I can't go back to it...Hmmmm, I'll have to load it up again, but I must be strong and finish some other things first.

Oh, I see it now. Took a screen capture. Will process it.

Edit: Hope this will be okay with Rael. I will post the pictures after I lightened them a bit.

My theory is that the good doctor got it at the end. Saw michael there, had the eviction notice sent, then went back to check on Robin. Only this time Robin attacked him. I think it would explain the freshness of the blood (red, not brown). Of course this all depends on whether or not there is a bone there and it is indeed human.

PS - No insider info here. I'm speculating just like you guys are!

I think this is the better one - Note foreground.

EDIT: That's a lion!

MWuahahaahaahaahaaaa

inferno

LOL this is fun! There's no way Robin killed Milton - remember he's in a cell and you definitely find the door locked when you arrive. The only way he could have grabbed Milton is from the window, but there would have been remains outside. In any case, someone has explained very well what occurred: Milton couldn't take it any longer and made arrangements to leave and never have to worry about his dilemma ever again. Pretty disturbing move though, considering the state in which he left Robin - a fate worse than death.

The above reasoning is a bit tied with the phone number I mentioned - who and why wrote it down? Re-read the very first notes you find...

As for that missing clue... I'm feeling nice today, so here you go:

Not just glowing eyes...

Hmmmm, cats eyes....

Now Agustin, I accept that Robin did not kill Dr. Milton since you wrote the thing...but saying there would have been remains outside the window is kind of hard for us to be able to determine since we couldn't explore those parts of the outside of the house (unless I missed it).

Lets see, cats eyes on who we assume to be Robin, lions claw...seems like the supernatural line is coming more into play.

What is that mound on the floor in the middle of the floor in Mags pic?

Think about the structure of the house and it becomes very apparent the placement of those windows. The remains would have been very, very visible. But there's even another fact - remember the invoice. The meat was being thrown through the most accessible window...

Surprising how the supernatural line can fit so well. Could it be that nothing happened when the amulet was used on the mask... because the spirit was somewhere else?

If it wasn't for that Thalidomide...

PS: I've no idea what that mound is!!

If the makers of the game are following this thread they must be laughing themselves silly over all the questions and answers being posted.
I am!

So here's my question, now that I've read the latest posts (and thank you to everyone who posted the screenshots!): was the whole amulet/exorcism thing useless if well-meaning on Michael's part, or was it the exorcism that freed Robin at last from his confines in the cellar? I guess a better way to phrase it is, instead of containing the spirit, did Michael inadvertantly unleash it?

'Retired at last', they are!
Rael = Agustin of Nucleosys.

Oh now Stop it, you two!!! your making me laugh
--- and I'm still in this ^&*% upper body cast!
ouch! my poor ribs!
--I told you guys this game was worth an A+ ---- super discussion.

This discussion is quite well done. Hmmmmm Cat's eyes... So that's how the that happened --- did they grind a cat's tooth with one of Robin's baby teeth? And then the evil demon took greater possession of the child?

Agustin that stop teasing us! You know fine well that the blob in the foreground of that picture looks like the remains of the lower half of a body lying on it's stomach.....

did you finish that patch by the way???? You know which one I mean.

inferno

Inferno - upper body cast? What happened.
-----------------------------------------
Ivinia - hope you're laughing with me and
not at me

Yep, I agree Inferno! Looks like a torso to me.

Retired @ Last - Yes, laughing with you!

Good - I love a good laugh

Hey Agustin,

Interesting you mention this

Ahh, so the police dude knows more than he's letting on? Hmm...

Well, a couple of things now. FIRST off that picture Mag has taken and posted, doesn't anyone else see that it is a hole in the floor that has a body in it, a partially decomposed one below the neck and is a skeleton, but that the head and face are completely intact and if one knew what all the characters looked like one could identify that body? Or am I seeing things?
You completely lost me with all this talk of the newspaper and Bailey's telephone number, I thought it could be that the maid jotted the phone number down on that since she is the one who called the police and 'blew the whistle' on the murder and murderer....And thinking about it, the house was straightened up and cleaned a bit before Michael moved in, according to Jerry on the phone to Mike about the purchase of that house and Mike moving into it....was that all another red herring? And I guess my 'dense mindmode' has kicked in as I don't see any other explanation yet about that scenario.....I guess you have to spell it all out for me
Love, Betty Lou This discussion has been almost more fun than the game!

well, I didn't see anything at all in the picture of Mag's... just some dirt, mainly.

WW

It looks like a torso and on the right side you can see an arm. Can't tell by the shadows whether it is a mound or an impression. The shadow on the bottom left of the torso is the opposite of the shadow where the arm is.

Me too, WW. I look at these pictures and think, "What is it I'm supposed to be seeing?"
I think I've seen all I'm going to see - Robin in Augustin's picture and a glomp of amorphous dirt in Mag's. Color me thick, but that's the way it is.

Mag's picture = what I see is, someone has started to dig up that floor, and on the right side sorta towards the hole in the wall there is clearly a face there in that 'grave' attached to a skeleton (decomposed body?) but I cannot identify who the face belongs to since I don't know what the characters look like. DOES THIS WORK, the 'body' I see there is actually Robin (who is now an adult) who died and someone or something tried to bury him, and the creature with the glowing eyes, no clothes, not really deformed but strange looking, not really a male figure nor female, is the 'evil spirit' who took over Robin's soul when it killed him, and the amulet ceremony on the mask has not done anything because it was done too late? And now the EVIL 'thingy' has been released into the world never to be 'vanquished' by mankind? Am I making any sense at all?
Love, Betty Lou :kiss: