The date is fast approaching and I have a question.

I have DSL/Uverse internet service with my phone company. I have a splitter separating my phone and internet line. I have ethernet cable connections to my computers from my modem.

Do I just unplug the ethernet cable, or do I disconnect under network connections, or both, or what?

Unplug the ethernet cable from the back of the Windows 7 computer.
I'm assuming you're using an ethernet cable and not wireless.

If you're using wireless, you'd need to disable the computer's wireless card in Device Manager.

Is your Windows 10 computer working OK online?

So, I only need to unplug the ethernet cable from the computer? I don't have to disconnect under settings too?

The "end of support" date is Tuesday, the same day they usually have updates. Will they put out one more update or no?

Is there anything in particular to maybe do before disconnecting?

Yes, my Windows 10 is working fine.

Thanks Jenny!

From what I read, there will be no more security updates. Nothing to do before disconnecting... all that is happening is that should there be any future security issues, they will no longer be patched.

So, you're good to go to continue using your Windows 7 computer offline.

Okay, thanks!

My Win7 machine is still on-line and today I was notified by Microsoft of 3 important updates.
[I have only ever downloaded "important" updates. Never bothered with the "optional" ones.]

Just thought I'd let you know ....

Did you check to see what the updates were for? You may still get updates for things like Security Essentials. From what I understand, you just won't get any more security updates for the operating system itself.

Thanks Mad. I was wondering if there would still be some kind of updates. I did disconnect though.

Draclvr, what is the difference please in those updates?

Security updates for the Windows 7 operating system fix "holes" or security related vulnerabilities in the operating system code itself. A Security Essentials update will update that piece of software. Some software will update and some are abandoning an unsupported operating system. I had to update my Microsoft Office 2010 because it will no longer be supported shortly.

Nio I didn't check, Draclvr. I just downloaded
[And I've never knowingly used Security Essentials. I use Norton.]

EDIT :

These are the updates ....

2020-01 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 for x64 (KB4535102)


2020-01 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4534310)


Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - January 2020 (KB890830)

Hah! I just had to Google Security Essentials. Shows you how much I know!

You can always check to see what they were in your update history. You have the Enterprise version of Windows 7, right? Maybe there is more support for that version.

EDIT: Mad, I looked up the numbers and it looks like those are the last updates issued on 1/14 for Windows 7. You just didn't get them for a couple of days. I'd have to guess that will be the last of them except things like the Malicious Software Removal Tool.

oldbroad, Security Essentials is old stuff!

Microsoft has always staggered their updates. There have been times when if I wanted a new security update I had to do a search for it and download and install it manually because it wouldn't show up in Windows Update.

Patch Tuesday was 14 January 2020, so those will probably be the last updates you get for Windows 7.

It's very rare that "unsupported" versions of Windows will receive patches. I think it only happens for things like Denial of Service malware, where all online computers will be affected even if only some of them are infected with the malware.

I was wondering if they would have that one last update when I asked this "Will they put out one more update or no?" (above) since it was on "update day". I almost kept my computer connected to see but didn't.

Mad - are you going to convert to Windows 10? It really is not so bad! You get used to it just like getting used to Windows 7 after XP.

Well I have to admit I was surprised to get notice of a Windows Update - but maybe it was, as Jenny100 says, a staggered release.

And yes, I do have Win7 Enterprise and some things have been different for that version but I doubt Microsoft care WHAT version you have now, if it isn't Win10. Pah !!

I already have a "limited" version of Win10 installed, oldbroad, by the use of a caddy. And I've used it. But only a very few times.
[The caddy works by allowing me to slot in either my Win7 C Drive or my Win10 C Drive.]

I'm supposed to be practicing using the smaller Win10 version before my Son in Law swaps it for the full version but I have very little appetite for it as yet

Just be glad Microsoft supports their operating systems for at least 10 years! I've talked to several Mac users who were so frustrated to have their systems only supported for 3 years! I don't know if they still do that, but just imagine having to go through this every 3 years instead of 10!

I picked up my new computer last Wednesday and have been exploring Windows 10 since. I must admit it is not as bad as I anticipated, not that much different to Windows 7 in fact. I was delighted that my old software still works fine and that Windows 10 is easy to customise. Of course, having a brand new computer has helped with the adaption.

Yes Mad. I know you were supposed to be dipping into it there but wondered if you made a final decision yet.

I think I read somewhere that (and I'm sure I don't have the right facts here but) businesses or Windows 10 Pro or Enterprise (can't exactly remember since it wasn't something for me) can pay for support for awhile longer??

I read that too, oldbroad, but I can't remember where. Probably on ZDNet... but only for businesses to do it.

Found it... From the article: "You'll also need to find a reseller that is a member of the Cloud Solution Provider program and can deliver the ESU licenses you require. As I discovered when I tried to do just that, this isn't as easy as it might sound."

https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-...mp;bhid=22576036403808292765793590604365

How is it a "limited" version?
Is it due to expire after a while?
Or is it "missing features"?


Eventually there may be a game you're interested in that only works with Windows 10 because it needs DirectX 12 or some other thing specific to Windows 10. You should probably check it out well enough to be able to use it, even if you continue to use Windows 7 for most of your games and offline stuff.

Excellent advice from Jenny.

My current Win10 doesn't quite have ALL the features but it can be replaced with the full version which can still be used in the caddy.
And no doubt I'll be nagged at until I agree to have it
I just don't really WANT it. I am totally happy with my 98SE, XP and 7 !!!! 👀👀

As for games developed specificallyfor Win10, I could easily do without any.
I probably already have enough games in my collection - played and not yet played - to last me until I kick the bucket

It's kind of a necessary evil for going online -- unless you want to switch to Linux or Mac for your online stuff.

Ask your tech if he can make the Windows 10 user interface look and act like Windows 7 for you.

If you really really hate Windows 10, I can't say I blame you. Even Windows 8 didn't have so much cr@pware and bloat by default as 10, and Microsoft made Windows 8 to look like a tablet.
But Windows 8 isn't so bad with Classic Shell (or a similar utility) that makes it look like Windows 7. And the same is probably true of Windows 10.


That may be.
But who knows?
Maybe a really good one will come along.

Jenny, do you have Windows 10?

Only in a VM.