Just curious how you feel about the usage of AI in creating games.

Components of AI Usage in Games:

Graphics
Text
Coding
Localization

Would you be less apt to purchase a game that utilized AI?
Do you think they should all have labels requiring disclosure of what the developers used AI for? Currently Steam requires it, Epic does not.
Does it not influence you in any way if you want to buy the game?

Thoughts.....keep it respectful please and thank you.

Ana

I don't totally understand AI and certainly don't understand game creation so I'll just say that I probably would not know if a game uses AI unless it is stated by the developer as we do see on Steam. If I want to buy a game, I'm going to buy it.

I’m rather of the same mind as oldbroad in that if I liked the look of a game I’d probably just buy it !!

Because what would be obvious if a game had used AI ??

Good question. I see people mentioning some game that has used AI, and frankly I would not have known. I am trying to become more savvy on the topic as not knowing whether something is real or whether it is AI may not have serious consequences in games but could certainly be important in real-life matters. I find it all a bit scary and disconcerting - the broader implications of it, that is.

I see pros and cons with it in games, Ana. It will be interesting to see where we are with it and games a few years from now.

" I am trying to become more savvy on the topic as not knowing whether something is real or whether it is AI may not have serious consequences in games but could certainly be important in real-life matters. I find it all a bit scary and disconcerting - the broader implications of it, that is."

Same thinking here, Marian!

I don’t see bad consequences, really, for the use of AI in games - or am I being naive ??

Its use in real life however, reminds me of the internet ….
Such a brilliant creation for “good” that has become so tainted from use by the “bad”
(But this is not really pertinent to the question asked by BrownEyedTigre.)

As a rule, games are fantasy-driven, aren't they? And they have long been developed by people using computers. So it's a logical step for developers to "improve" their product utilising higher computer power. I don't see the downside (unless some talented animators lose their job) and knowing or not knowing the process by which a game was produced would not influence my decision to buy.

AI made me laugh the other day; I was watching an episode of House, when they mentioned an obscure disease. I asked Google "what is (that disease) and she gave an accurate detailed description, along with a caveat to consult a professional. I replied with "I only asked because I am watching House." She replied with "Oh I understand. You must be watching Season seven, episode two. Enjoy."

AI isn't the enemy, the people who use it inappropriately for their own benefit are.

I am with Oldbroad and Mad
TBH...I have no idea what AI is, maybe if I could see a side by side comparison I could have an opinion but until then I am indifferent I guess.

My issue with AI is that is uses existing ideas and artwork from humans. There are a lot of protests and groups of different artists and writers who feel their work is being stolen and used without their permission.



AI is at least getting better - it is famous for adding in extra fingers or hands in images.

But in favor of game creators, it is much less expensive than hiring artists and writers and voice actors. But in favor of the artists and writers and voice actors, it is taking away jobs and stealing their existing work.

I do believe it is inevitable.

But in favor of game creators, it is much less expensive than hiring artists and writers and voice actors. But in favor of the artists and writers and voice actors, it is taking away jobs and stealing their existing work. I do believe it is inevitable.

That has been the way of things since as far back as the "Industrial revolution, Draclvr, and I can't see it ever changing, either,

I don't either, Mad.

I believe I am going to like the use of AI in games but won't know for sure until they are announced and I can check them out. A darkside game, I like what I see here. How this will play out in adventure games we have come to enjoy, I don't know. I look forward to their announcements

Ana, what are your thoughts about this?

I’m genuinely frightened by AI.

I’m not opposed to it per se. I use it quite a lot, mostly as an advanced form of googling. I wouldn’t ever use it to create an image in a game, or to make voice overs. I absolutely hate that in games. (Well, I did use one image of a person in my latest game, but that was supposed to be an AI generated image, as part of the story). Coding doesn’t bother me as such, although I feel sorry for all the programmers that are losing their jobs.

Last week, I was at a restaurant with some friends. Someone wondered what music was playing, and someone else answered ”I think the music is generated by AI in real time. They do it in public places these days to avoid having to pay royalties”. He checked it with Shazam (an app that can identify music), and didn’t get any hit, which more or less is a guarantee that the music isn’t ”real”. It hadn’t struck my mind that the blues singer with the raspy voice wasn’t a real person, or that the harmonica or the guitar solo wasn’t played by real people, let alone that it wasn’t even composed by people. We’re not just talking synthesized sounds here, like digital strings used in a film score, but music created by computers. The charts on Spotify are now full of AI created music. Some have been debated. Anyone interested can look up Sienna Rose. This highly successful singer was suspected of being AI-generated, due to her lack of visual presence. When she finally uploaded a video presenting herself as a real person there was only one problem: The door frame behind her head changed shape when she moved.

As long as I can remember, a central - maybe the most central - theme in science fiction films and books has been the creation of robots that we can't differentiate from real people. Films like Blade Runner, Terminator and Westworld are all built around this concept. Why? Because it frightens us.

When music (or art if you will) can be created by machines, without us even being able to tell the difference, we’re one giant step closer to a similar scenario: A person walks in to the abovementioned restaurant, and we start a conversation about whether it’s a human or not.

However, apart from graphics and voice acting, we’re pretty far from AI being able to actually create games (especially adventure games, I think).

I have to lean to the viewpoint of Mikael. Another issue is that no one appears to be willing to regulate or control AI. The owners of Anthropic which has the AI named Claude are probably the only ones even attempting to be responsible.

In my opinion not very much on the web (AI or otherwise) that should be regulated IS regulated.
And adding in to that AI content that is also unregulated - especially with regards to children - is just appalling.

Plus, children who are “banned” by age will just look at stuff on a device owned by someone else anyway 🥺

oldbroad, as a lifelong amateur wildlife photographer I despise all the AI generated "photos" that people are passing off as real and people believe it, but in game usage I personally have no problem playing a game that was created using AI. My dilemma on that though is the number of developers I have become friends with that struggle with finding time, resources and talent to do a game from scratch, or even worse, lose their job because of being replaced with AI.
Many of my adventure gaming groups on FaceBook have a strict no AI games allowed to be discussed. Posts will be deleted. It's a bit of a heated debate in some gaming circles.

I absolutely embrace it for many other uses in my daily life and would play a game that appealed to me with no hesitation if it was created with AI because games are fantasy whether you hand drew it or used AI. Using it to create fake images with intent to deceive I do not approve of.

Ana

In terms of the end product, is using AI in games so much different to using CGI in movies?
I imagine though that the people input involved is so much more in the latter, and I am certainly in favour of retaining jobs.

Me too, flotsam (retaining jobs). And also in favor of people not being duped by criminals using AI or any other means.