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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017253
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KB3035583 was included with security updates on my Windows 7 computer.
After uninstalling it, it returned to the Windows update list, and I "hid" it.

But it was under "Optional" updates on my Windows 8.1 computer.
Not sure it's that way for everyone though.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Jenny100] #1017257
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I don't have this update (Win7) but I don't download "Optional" updates - so that must be why yes


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Mad] #1017275
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Originally Posted By: Mad
I don't have this update (Win7) but I don't download "Optional" updates - so that must be why

It was only "Optional" on my Windows 8.1 installation.
It was "Recommended"/"Important" on my Windows 7, and installed along with "Critical" updates in Windows Update.

It may currently be "Optional" for you, but I wouldn't depend on it staying that way. If you see it listed as "Optional" in your Windows Update, use the "hide" feature. (I assume you're using manual install for Windows updates rather than automatic).

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It's no easy task to find KB3035583 in the list of installed updates.
Even if you click "Name" in your list of installed updates to sort them, they seem to be listed in separate sections.
If you have MS Office installed the way I do, there are a lot of separate sections to check.


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I can't say I'll never use Windows 10, but I'm certainly not going to beta test it for Microsoft, especially if it means sacrificing a working operating system in the process. I have every reason to believe there will be games that won't work on Windows 10 that worked on Windows 8 and earlier, just as there were games that worked on Windows 7 but not on Windows 8, and games that worked on XP that don't work on Windows 7.

And I wouldn't use it without the capability to change the Start Menu back to the Windows 7/Vista version.
I hate those space-eating blocks of garbage-that-looks-like-ads hanging off the side of the menu that you see in pictures of Windows 10 and 8.1.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017290
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One thing I'm VERY glad of is that the stupid "Charms" menu on the right is gone, gone, gone. Hated the name - hated the menu - hated everything about it.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017447
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Did I read correctly (somewhere) that we have a year from release of win10 to upgrade free?


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: blackbird] #1017449
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Originally Posted By: blackbird
Did I read correctly (somewhere) that we have a year from release of win10 to upgrade free?


I also read this.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017464
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Yes, you read correctly. I also read that if you have an OEM computer with a recovery partition for Windows 8 or Windows 7, it will not touch that partition. If you don't like Windows 10, you can activate your recovery partition and revert back to factory.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017486
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Having a year to upgrade free will allow time for helpful gameboomers who install win10 earlier to see which of our games will play. The lists given for win7 were really helpful and appreciated.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: blackbird] #1017500
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I don't have this update (Win7) but I don't download "Optional" updates - so that must be why

It was only "Optional" on my Windows 8.1 installation.
It was "Recommended"/"Important" on my Windows 7, and installed along with "Critical" updates in Windows Update.

It may currently be "Optional" for you, but I wouldn't depend on it staying that way. If you see it listed as "Optional" in your Windows Update, use the "hide" feature. (I assume you're using manual install for Windows updates rather than automatic).


I just found this paragraph which might explain why I don't see the update on my machine ?? [I have Win7 Enterprise.]

“It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. ISP fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required.
Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1.
Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 Enterprise outside of this offer. We will be sharing more information and additional offer terms in coming months.”


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017530
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Originally Posted By: Mad
I have Win7 Enterprise.

Usually Enterprise versions of Windows are only available to businesses.
You may be the only person in this forum who has the Enterprise version of Windows 7 on their home computer. It isn't usually an option and home users have to buy Windows Ultimate if they want the same functionality.

***Wikipedia*** says
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Enterprise customers under an active Software Assurance (SA) contract with Microsoft are entitled to obtain Windows 10 Enterprise under their existing terms, as with previous versions of Windows. Enterprise customers whose SA agreement is expired or are under a volume license that does not have upgrade rights, and all users running non-genuine copies of Windows, are not entitled to freely upgrade to Windows 10.

You probably don't have that "Software Assurance" contract. But from what Wiki says, those who do have it have always been able to upgrade to whatever was the latest version of Windows. Inland would probably know more about Enterprise versions of Windows.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017546
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You can peruse the SA FAQ below -

Get answers to frequently asked questions on select Software Assurance.

Enterprise editions are only available through Volume Licensing agreements.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017563
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Ah, that's probably why Mad's SIL installed the Enterprise edition on her new computer.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Draclvr] #1017658
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Well, I reckon if my Son in Law decides I should ever have Win10 he'll deliver it, somehow !! lol

Thanks, all, for the info thumbsup


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1017800
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Speaking of Windows 10- Is it possible to disable the "Get Windows 10 now" notification?

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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Smiley456] #1017804
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Originally Posted By: Smiley456
Speaking of Windows 10- Is it possible to disable the "Get Windows 10 now" notification?

We talked about that earlier in this thread.
If you don't want to update to Windows 10, uninstall KB3035583, run Windows Update manually, and "hide" KB3035583 so it won't try to install in the future.

If you want Windows 10 but don't want the notification, do as Draclvr suggested...
Originally Posted By: Draclvr
All you need to do is click on the up arrow for your hidden icons, select Customize and select Hide Notifications.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018149
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Do we know yet just what games will play on 10?


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018152
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We won't know until I get it and start testing out my older games.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018156
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How soon are you getting it? Are you reserving a copy?


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018185
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It will be released on July 29th.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: flutist] #1018207
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Originally Posted By: flutist
How soon are you getting it? Are you reserving a copy?


Having run it since it was available for beta testing, I for one will not be. The only way this OS makes sense is if you own something with a touch screen (and even then, a cheap IOS tablet does a better job of it).

Steve Ballmer resigned (or was fired) from Microsoft for a reason, I believe it was his own incompetence (and that's putting it nicely), but that's just my $0.02.

Stick with XP or 7 for gaming for now, leave this one alone.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018225
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my computer mother board went so had to buy a new computer got a all in one with a touch screen and I still can use my mouse and key board which I like to use for my e-mail the cloth to clean the screen to protect it $30.00 I need to go and get it because they forgot to send it along with my stuff. anyway the tech guy signed me up for windows 10 so guess he can install it when it comes out. Dianne smile

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If you have a touch screen, and are comfortable with windows 8, you'll probably be okay with Windows 10. It's the desktop and Windows 7 users that will have a huge learning curve.

If you're signed up for it, it will install as part of the normal maintenance distribution.

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018758
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my husband has windows7 and I have windows 8.1 the tech guy at Staples he looks after our techie problems signed us up for this one. that way if something goes haywire he had better fix it. we are both of us in retired mood. lol

Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Darleen03] #1018760
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Keep in mind that if you have an OEM computer with a recovery partition, you can always revert back. They are saying that upgrading does not remove that partition.


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Re: Windows 10 is coming ... [Re: Draclvr] #1018784
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
Keep in mind that if you have an OEM computer with a recovery partition, you can always revert back.

But it will revert back to the way the computer was when you got it.
It will not include any games or other software that you've installed yourself. If you have any games with a limited number of activations, those activations will be gone.

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