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grim tales threads of destiny #1195061
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i am trying to find this game on big fish. but can't seem to find it . its one of three that i don't have . has it been removed or am i just not seeing it

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195063
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This is one of quite a few games that were removed from the website a few months ago, unfortunately. This was the only game from the Grim Tales series that was removed.

Those who had already purchased the game prior to its removal will be able to download it from their Purchase History and play it.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195065
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well shucks some how i missed getting it . thank you marian

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195080
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Any idea why they have removed so many games lately?

Does it have to do with a game developer or maybe the games won't run on Windows 10 or something like that?

Is there a list somewhere that shows what they've removed?

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195082
08/29/19 01:15 PM
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Some of the games that were removed were newer, so it wasn't a Windows 10 issue (I don't think it was a Windows 10 issue with many or most of them). Maybe they weren't selling as well, maybe it had something to do with mobile versions, I really do not know. Most of the games were from developers that are still with Big Fish, although not all.

I have a copy of the list and can post it here. There are a few others as well, but this was the batch that was removed a few months ago:

Dreampath: The Two Kingdoms Collector's Edition
• Dreampath: The Two Kingdoms
• Dreampath: Curse of the Swamps
• Dreampath: Curse of the Swamps Collector's Edition
• Subliminal Realms: The Masterpiece
• Subliminal Realms: The Masterpiece Collector's Edition
• Dark Dimensions: City of Ash
• Dark Dimensions: City of Ash Collector's Edition
• Dark Dimensions: Somber Song
• Dark Dimensions: Somber Song Collector's Edition
• Ominous Objects: Family Portrait
• Ominous Objects: Family Portrait Collector's Edition
• Ominous Objects: Phantom Reflection
• Ominous Objects: Phantom Reflection Collector's Edition
• Sable Maze: Forbidden Garden
• Sable Maze: Forbidden Garden Collector's Edition
• Sable Maze: Norwich Caves
• Sable Maze: Norwich Caves Collector's Edition
• Yuletide Legends: The Brothers Claus
• Yuletide Legends: The Brothers Claus Collector's Edition
• Dark Parables: Requiem for the Forgotten Shadow
• Dark Parables: Requiem for the Forgotten Shadow Collector's Edition
• Myths of the World: Bound by the Stone
• Myths of the World: Bound by the Stone Collector's Edition
• Off the Record: The Final Interview
• Off the Record: The Final Interview Collector's Edition
• Phantasmat: Reign of Shadows
• Phantasmat: Reign of Shadows Collector's Edition
• Phantasmat: Town of Lost Hope
• Phantasmat: Town of Lost Hope Collector's Edition
• Grim Tales: Threads of Destiny
• Grim Tales: Threads of Destiny Collector's Edition
• Unfinished Tales: Illicit Love
• Unfinished Tales: Illicit Love Collector's Edition
• Secret Trails: Frozen Heart
• Secret Trails: Frozen Heart Collector's Edition
• Shrouded Tales: The Spellbound Land
• Shrouded Tales: The Spellbound Land Collector's Edition
• Haunted Manor: Painted Beauties
• Haunted Manor: Painted Beauties Collector's Edition
• Witch Hunters: Full Moon Ceremony
• Witch Hunters: Full Moon Ceremony Collector's Edition
• Dark Tales: Edgar Allan Poe’s The Mystery of Marie Roget
• Dark Tales: Edgar Allan Poe’s The Mystery of Marie Roget Collector's Edition
• Haunted Legends: The Stone Guest
• Haunted Legends: The Stone Guest Collector's Edition
• Beyond the Unknown: A Matter of Time
• Beyond the Unknown: A Matter of Time Collector's Edition
• Christmas Eve: Midnight's Call
• Christmas Eve: Midnight's Call Collector's Edition
• Grim Facade: The Red Cat
• Grim Facade: The Red Cat Collector's Edition
• Haunted Legends: The Dark Wishes
• Haunted Legends: The Dark Wishes Collector's Edition
• Haunted Legends: The Iron Mask
• Haunted Legends: The Iron Mask Collector's Edition
• Haunted Legends: The Secret of Life
• Haunted Legends: The Secret of Life Collector's Edition
• Haunted Legends: The Stone Guest
• Haunted Legends: The Stone Guest Collector's Edition
• PuppetShow: Lightning Strikes
• PuppetShow: Lightning Strikes Collector's Edition
• PuppetShow: The Face of Humanity
• PuppetShow: The Face of Humanity Collector's Edition
• PuppetShow: The Price of Immortality
• PuppetShow: The Price of Immortality Collector's Edition
• Reality Show: Fatal Shot
• Reality Show: Fatal Shot Collector's Edition
• Redemption Cemetery: Clock of Fate
• Redemption Cemetery: Clock of Fate Collector's Edition
• Redemption Cemetery: The Island of the Lost
• Redemption Cemetery: The Island of the Lost Collector's Edition
• Reveries: Soul Collector
• Reveries: Soul Collector Collector's Edition
• Shadow Wolf Mysteries: Tracks of Terror
• Shadow Wolf Mysteries: Tracks of Terror Collector's Edition

As I said before, there have been a few others here and there. Another one I noticed as missing a few months ago was Mystery Tales: Alaskan Wild CE/SE (Domini).

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195083
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Wow Marian. That was fast - and thorough! I didn't expect to see the list posted here, was just wondering if there WAS a list somewhere to look at smile.

I'll have to go through this to see which ones I have (just out of curiosity). It is weird though!

And yes, just taking a quick glance, some of them are quite new.

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Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195084
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I had a copy of the list on my desktop, so I was able to just copy and paste it here. I was revising the list while you were posting again.

The list was originally posted on another website and has been confirmed to be correct.

Googling shows me that some of these games can still be purchased online from one or more other websites. I won't name names, because I have not purchased from any of them and thus cannot recommend them with any certainty as I have no experience with them.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195100
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Thanks Marian for the list and the additional information. I have almost all of the games on the list. I've copied the list to a Word doc in case I want to look at it again sometime in the future.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195102
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You're welcome. smile

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195149
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Now I'm curious. Unless there is some cost to keeping those games why remove them? Does BFG pay licensing fees regardless of sales?

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195155
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i have some of the games listed that i have not yet purchased in my game manager . will we still be able to buy them?

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195171
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Originally Posted by my10rugrats
i have some of the games listed that i have not yet purchased in my game manager . will we still be able to buy them?


Being as they have been removed from the website, I imagine that you will get some kind of error message if you try to purchase them through the Game Manager. No harm in trying, though.

I don't have an answer to your questions, 8dognight. I wish I did.

On a Facebook forum for fans of Big Fish Games, many of us asked to please let us know in advance from now on if a purge like this is going to take place again; that way, we could buy titles that we were interested in before they went bye-bye. A representative from Big Fish said she would send this feedback to the appropriate team.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: Marian] #1195175
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Originally Posted by Marian
On a Facebook forum for fans of Big Fish Games, many of us asked to please let us know in advance from now on if a purge like this is going to take place again; that way, we could buy titles that we were interested in before they went bye-bye. A representative from Big Fish said she would send this feedback to the appropriate team at Big Fish.


I was wondering about this, if there was an advance notice anywhere.

Question. How do you have games in your game manager if they have not been purchased already? Are they demos that were downloaded?

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195178
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I was assuming that my10 had demos in the Game Manager.

There were advance notices posted somewhere/sent out to some, but not to everyday customers of Big Fish.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195180
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Thanks Marian. I've never downloaded a Big Fish demo so I don't know how that works in the game manager. Do they just stay there forever if you don't end up purchasing the game or can you delete them or something?

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Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: 8dognight] #1195182
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they are demos i downloaded. i cant buy all my games like i would like to. so i down load them and play the 90 minutes or so wate ever they allow to be played. i will try and purchase one a little later in the month of sept

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: oldbroad] #1195183
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Originally Posted by oldbroad
Thanks Marian. I've never downloaded a Big Fish demo so I don't know how that works in the game manager. Do they just stay there forever if you don't end up purchasing the game or can you delete them or something?


They stay in the Game Manager until you uninstall them. Why haven't you ever downloaded a demo? Just curious.

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Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195187
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My10, I will be astonished if it allows you to purchase a game that has been removed from the website; in fact, I don't see how that would be possible. But as I said before, it doesn't hurt to try.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: Sparkle] #1195196
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Originally Posted by Sparkle
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Thanks Marian. I've never downloaded a Big Fish demo so I don't know how that works in the game manager. Do they just stay there forever if you don't end up purchasing the game or can you delete them or something?


They stay in the Game Manager until you uninstall them. Why haven't you ever downloaded a demo? Just curious.


Thanks Sparkle. I was going to say "uninstall" instead of "delete" but then I thought, well, uninstalling a game still leaves the game in your manager, so I changed my wording thinking that the demo might still stay there even if you uninstalled it. I don't know why it would but...

I guess I just don't see a reason to download the demo. The game will either work or it won't (and maybe work through the demo but not later on). I'll like it or I won't, but I'll most likely play the whole game even if I don't like it much. Also, being so far behind in playing the games I have, I don't want to play a part of a game that I may never get back to for who knows how long. I once tried a demo of an adventure game because I wasn't sure I'd be able to play it due to motion sickness and the type of puzzling in it, but casual games don't cause those problems.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: oldbroad] #1195199
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oldbroad: When you uninstall a demo in the Game Manager it disappears from the Game Manager.


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Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195219
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BigFish does send out notices prior to deletion but only to affiliates. We aren't allowed to post it or give a headsup or we lose our affiliate status.

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Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195221
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That's interesting that loss of affiliate status results if the information is given to the general public. Apparently they don't want customers to know about the impending deletions. They must have their reasons.

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195226
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Thanks for the info!

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: Marian] #1195278
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Interesting, Marian. As you know, I maintain a database of all BF casual games I have Demo-ed or purchased, and my comment on each. Reading through that list of games deleted by BF, most of the deleted games were ones I passed on buying after checking out the Demo. The only exceptions were a few of the Sable Maze games (I played and liked three enough to slot them for future replay). It may be that they maintain an inventory of how many people buy each game, and simply are cutting the dead wood periodically? It would make sense.

I did not read every response to this thread, but am wondering if games that were deleted from the BF site would mean I could not go back and replay them? I assume the answer is "Yes, those would no longer be available for replay."

Re: grim tales threads of destiny [Re: my10rugrats] #1195281
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Reenie, if the games are in your Purchase History, they will remain there and you can download and play them whenever you want. The losers here are people who were interested in playing these games but hadn't purchased them yet.

I also thought of the "dead wood" theory. I can't prove or disprove that, but it's certainly something to consider.

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