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Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199013
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Well shoot. I posted but must have missed hitting the post button.

The guy came and left but is still sitting outside (since a 1/2 ago). I wish he would drive away so I can get back in my pajamas and drink my morning coffee and tea which I was too nervous to drink.

He installed a new (one piece) router/modem. My old router and modem were separate pieces. So far, so good.

I inquired about fiber service (you know, just in case). He said that they would just run a cable from the pole to my house and drill a hole for the jack, and that they would not have to do anything with my phone box or inside wires at all. That puts my mind at ease about that.

Please keep wishing me luck that this does keep working though!

Ooh, he finally left. Time to change.

Next big item on the agenda is trying to get the Windows 7 cleaned and fans replaced. Smaller items include trying to get my documents on this computer as well as numerous other miscellaneous things that I am not as concerned about.

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Brilliant news about your Tech Visitor !! rah


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Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199015
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Excellent news! I did not think it would be as bad as you were thinking it could be, and I am very glad to hear that it was not. Fingers crossed that it all continues to run smoothly.

Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199016
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Thanks Mad and Marian. I know I over worry about everything. That is just me. Several years ago I served on jury duty. We spent a lot of time in the jury room (going back and forth between the court room and jury room). I was constantly in the washroom; like every 5 minutes. The other jurors probably thought I had a drug problem or something but I was just nervous.

Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199018
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Originally Posted by oldbroad
He installed a new (one piece) router/modem. My old router and modem were separate pieces. So far, so good.

I inquired about fiber service (you know, just in case). He said that they would just run a cable from the pole to my house and drill a hole for the jack, and that they would not have to do anything with my phone box or inside wires at all. That puts my mind at ease about that.

Are you going to get fiber then?
If you continue to have connectivity problems even with the new router/modem, it may be because of the old copper cabling between your house and the pole, and getting a new fiber cable would fix that.

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Oh, this just makes me so happy for you! And SOOOO glad to hear you got some new and much better equipment for your internet service. I have a feeling things are going to go a lot better now that you don't have that to worry about. All the rest is just details and time!


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Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199026
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I'm not really planning on fiber Jenny but you never know. If I decide at some point this is too slow and/or for the reason you mention - If I still have problems.

Thanks Draclvr. Big sigh of relief. Surprised you didn't hear it down there!

In fact, feeling so good now that I put a call in to the computer guy I'm hoping will be able to help me with my Windows 7. Waiting for a call back to discuss the issues. I figured it was a good time to make the call, while I'm feeling some confidence.

EDIT: Taking computer in Monday morning.

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Good for you! Won't it be nice to be able to put all of this stuff behind you? wave

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Very much so Marian! Very much so!

Re: Hard Drives [Re: Jenny100] #1199083
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Originally Posted by Jenny100
Originally Posted by oldbroad
The Windows updates today had my Windows 7 temps going up near 80.

"Those are really high temperatures for a processor."

It spikes like that at certain times when the computer is doing something, and sometimes when the computer is idle, though not that high.

Do you think that cleaning the computer and replacing the fans will help this or do you think it is something else going bad? Just your opinion; not asking for a diagnosis of something you can't see.

Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199085
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Originally Posted by oldbroad
Do you think that cleaning the computer and replacing the fans will help this or do you think it is something else going bad?

Yes I think that cleaning out dust and having working fans will help with your temperatures.
One other thing to think about is replacing the thermal compound between the processor and the heat sink in case it's dried out and no longer having good contact.
Your tech should be able to figure out if it's necessary to replace the thermal compound or not.

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I'd say 99% that cleaning out dust and having all the fans working - in addition to getting it out of that confined space - will work wonders.


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Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199100
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Thanks!

Jenny, I tried to mention that to the guy when I talked to him on the phone but couldn't remember the name of it. I wrote it down now so I can I ask him about that.

Drac, it will go back to the confined space. I don't have anyplace else to put that one.

When I thought the fan on the side of the case wasn't working either (which I'm not sure about it again) I asked Mike about it and he said that fan is more or less just for show. Does that sound right? It comes on sometimes but has been off now for the last week. It seems to stay off when it is cooler in my house if that even makes sense. Anyway, Mike never gave me the size of that fan so I don't have a replacement for it and am not sure if I should worry about that one. What do you think?

I am bringing some fans with me that I bought on Amazon for the top of the case and I'm hoping the one on the back is the same size. That one worked at the time I questioned the size of the top ones and I never did ask about it. If I don't have the right fans I'll have to leave the computer there longer.

I finally finished looking at all the links the two of you posted above for me. I think I learned a little something anyway.

Oh, how do I know what version of Windows 10 I have? In one of the links, there was something about the November update and mentioned about versions and the May update. Is there someplace I can find that information? Also, where do I find the place that shows my Windows copy is certified?

Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199104
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Originally Posted by oldbroad
When I thought the fan on the side of the case wasn't working either (which I'm not sure about it again) I asked Mike about it and he said that fan is more or less just for show. Does that sound right?

Yes. Airflow is usually front to back in a computer case, maybe a bit out the top. So if you have fans in the front or back of the case those are the most important.

Originally Posted by oldbroad
It comes on sometimes but has been off now for the last week. It seems to stay off when it is cooler in my house if that even makes sense.

Sounds like it's working if it's controlled with a thermostat.

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Oh, how do I know what version of Windows 10 I have?

https://www.howtogeek.com/236195/how-to-find-out-which-build-and-version-of-windows-10-you-have/

Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1199106
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Thanks Jenny. Now that I looked at it, I think I actually saw the information the other day while looking around in here.

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Right click the white Windows icon. Select System and it will tell you everything you need to know.


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HELP!

Trying to LOOK at stuff in here and all of a sudden it is saying that I "purchased moments ago" the following: Candy Crush Saga, Twitter, and Netflix?????????

I didn't purchase anything. Is there going to be some charge on some credit card of mine somewhere???

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I found this.

Not sure how it happens, but it does not sound like you will get charged for anything.

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Thanks Marian. This is the problem with this Windows 10. I mentioned above that I don't know what's there and what is advertisements. How can I tell if an item is installed on my computer or if it is just trying to get me to buy or download stuff if I can't look at it without it all of a sudden saying I purchased it? One Big Advertisement!!

I think it shows that it is free but that is really not the point.

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That Classic Windows shell that Jenny linked to will apparently make the computer look just like Windows 7.

I think a lot of this will get better over time once you get more acquainted with the OS. New stuff seems to bombard a person at first with a new OS but after a week or so it improves.

I am still on Windows 7 but will be upgrading to Windows 10 in the next few months. My biggest concern is whether or not my favorite games will still work. I believe that most of them will. I won't be getting rid of this computer either.

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I took a look at the Classic Shell but I'm not sure it really looked just like Windows 7 either though. I would like to TRY to get used to this.

I'll be waiting to hear what YOU think of it!!

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Oldbroad, you don't "purchase" any of these. If they are on your tiled start menu, just right click them and select uninstall. I did it with every one of them. They can't charge you anything if they don't have your credit card info.


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Originally Posted by oldbroad
I took a look at the Classic Shell but I'm not sure it really looked just like Windows 7 either though.

It may not look "exactly" like it, but it comes close and is probably easier than going through all the tweaks to get rid of unwanted Windows 10 junk. I used Classic Shell or StartIsBack with Windows 8/8.1.
StartIsBack was closer to Windows 7, but you have to buy it.
https://www.startisback.com/
Classic Shell is free.
I thought using Classic Shell or StartIsBack was easier to configure than trying to go through all the tweaks to make Windows 8/8.1 usable.

If you don't want to use Classic Shell, you can check out the links we posted earlier for how to tweak Windows 10 to make it more usable:

https://windowsclassroom.com/make-windows-10-look-like-windows-7/
https://www.howtogeek.com/277448/how-to-make-windows-10-look-and-act-more-like-windows-7/
https://www.howtogeek.com/197586/how-to-make-the-windows-10-start-menu-look-more-like-windows-7/
https://www.howtogeek.com/197836/8-ways-to-customize-the-windows-10-start-menu/

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The difference Draclvr, is that you know what you're looking at and are comfortable getting rid of it. I would like to know first what it is and it doesn't really let you LOOK at it to see. These things show up on both the right side as tiles and on the left in the list. Isn't the list on the left program files?

I'm not ruling anything out Jenny. It's just that what I saw didn't look much easier to me. I really don't know my way around Windows 7 very well either (some days I can find stuff and some days I can't) so I figure I should probably just try to learn Windows 10.

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Yes, those are programs and apps on the left. The tiles on the right are nothing more than fancy shortcuts. I guess I'm talking about the Candy Crush and other junk they put there. To look at them, just click. You aren't going to be "buying" any of them unless you want to and give them your purchase information.Since you aren't signed in with a Microsoft account, you may not be able to use all of them... such as news or Mail. They aren't Microsoft advertisments, but stuff like popular games that a lot of people like. I hate them! I do use the Weather app - I have it pinned to my taskbar. And I use the Calendar app heavily - it's also pinned to my taskbar. If I don't put something on my calendar with a reminder to be sent to me, I can't remember anything! I also have the Snipping Tool and the Calculator - in Windows Accessories - pinned.


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